Friday, October 16, 2009

"Too many palatial homes"

This Peter Hong article in the L.A. Times is so applicable to our Westside. High-end price cutting not only pushes down those houses' prices, it ripples all the way down to lot-value houses that spec builders don't want because they're no longer building, like it did after 1990.

Last week there were 14 houses in Santa Monica over $3M, not that those are all recently-built. See also the Calculated Risk quote at the bottom, which matches my expectations.
Too many palatial homes, too few princely buyers

By Peter Y. Hong
October 4, 2009

Two years ago, Larry Igarashi bet he could build a sprawling house in Orange County's foothills that would sell for at least $10 million. These days, you can easily guess how that turned out.

On Saturday he put the eight-bedroom house in the gated Coto de Caza community on the auction block and got a high bid of $6.6 million -- less than he was willing to accept.

Igarashi had gone all-out when he built the "Santa Barbara ranch" house: The master bedroom suite alone is 3,200 square feet, a bit smaller than the 10-car, climate-controlled garage, which measures 4,000 square feet. The driveway is long enough for a firetruck to turn around, and there's a wine storage enclave with room for 1,400 bottles.

The 16,500-square-foot hilltop house -- in the community that was the setting for "The Real Housewives of Orange County" television show -- is just one of dozens of unsold mega-mansions across Southern California conceived during the real estate bubble, when builders waged an ill-timed arms race to ever-increasing extravagance.

Comparably deluxe houses now lie vacant in droves along the coasts and hillsides of Southern California, from Manhattan Beach to Irvine. Their owners could afford to keep them on the market for months, sometimes years, hoping to find buyers who would pay their asking prices.

That holding pattern has kept the most expensive segment of the home market from posting the kinds of sharp price drops seen just about everywhere else. But it's now clear that there are too many palatial properties and too few princely buyers.

As more sellers like Igarashi decide to cut their losses and move on -- or are compelled to do so by their lenders -- the most expensive homes could slip from their perch at the top rung of the market.

"Sellers there now have to unload, and in order to do so, they must reduce their prices," said Chapman University economist Esmael Adibi.

Spec mansions are now amassed in some areas like rising floodwater behind a dam. A search of homes for sale built since 2007 and priced above $3 million shows 39 such properties in Newport Beach and Newport Coast, 27 in Laguna Beach, 19 in Manhattan Beach, 18 in Irvine and 11 on the Palos Verdes Peninsula.

There are also hundreds of other multimillion-dollar homes for sale in Southern California that were not recently built, but sellers who live in homes they bought before the housing bubble are less likely to be under the same pressure to sell as speculators stuck with vacant properties and construction loans coming due.

As speculators and recent purchasers who must get out of mortgages that exceed their home values slash prices to find buyers, other sellers will have to lower their prices to compete.

In much the same way that foreclosures pulled down market prices for lower-priced homes, stressed sellers could deflate the high end by unloading luxury homes at bargain prices.

But even at cut-rate prices, few multimillion-dollar homes are selling. With so many to choose from, even those with enough money are taking their time.

"There's no sense of urgency among buyers," Igarashi said. He had hoped that the prospect of snaring a good deal through Saturday's auction would motivate those who have been delaying a purchase to get off the fence. But it turned out to be a double disappointment.

Igarashi had two houses at auction. The other was a six-bedroom Tuscan-style house he had once listed for $5.75 million. He finished the 10,500-square-foot house in 2007; it sat unsold as the even grander second house was built. It drew a top bid of $3.1 million, below Igarashi's undisclosed minimum. After the auction, Igarashi began negotiating with the high bidder on each property, and was still talking with them at the end of the day.

Near his houses, another six-bedroom home is being auctioned later this month with a starting bid of $3.9 million. It had failed to sell when listed at $9 million.

Auctions can backfire. In December, five new homes in Manhattan Beach were auctioned with opening bids of more than $1 million -- none were sold.

Buyers will eventually emerge as prices fall, Adibi said. Still, it's hard to know how much real demand there is for super-sized homes, even among the very wealthy.

Spec home builders were motivated to ramp up square footage to justify higher prices on their projects. But buyers today who are more likely be looking for a long-term home than a place to flip may not want the trouble of maintaining such large houses.

A bigger question also remains: What if the giant spec homes just never sell?

Stefanos Polyzoides, a Pasadena architect who is an advocate of more dense, compact residences, said sometimes economies change in ways that make the original uses of buildings obsolete. The grand mansions of Newport, R.I., for example, have been converted to condominium buildings or inns, he notes.

Polyzoides doubts such reinventions could work for many of the latest spec mansions. "Some of these are huge albatrosses in exurbia surrounded by nothing. Many of these could face a very hard ending," he said.

Igarashi acknowledged that he miscalculated the market. As he showed a reporter around his Coto de Caza project -- a sprawling tile-roofed building measuring 218 feet across -- Igarashi said it was easy to do in the go-go years.

Though he made a fortune as a titanium golf club manufacturer, Igarashi had been building spec homes as a kind of working hobby since 1980 -- turning profits on all six homes he built in Orange County before his two latest.

"I just didn't expect this would happen," Igarashi said of the housing crash. "I don't think Wall Street or even the president of the United States believed this could happen."

He now hopes to get what he can for the houses and move on. He'd like to pick up land at today's fire-sale prices and build more homes. But Igarashi said he'll take a different approach next time. He plans to build apartments.

Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times
And don't miss Calculated Risk's "The Uncertain Housing Outlook" yesterday, that concluded,
So my guess is another down turn in the housing market in 2010 (existing home sales and prices), although prices have probably already bottomed in many low end areas.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does being at the bottom for "low end areas" just mean in the inland empire? it's pretty agreed on that there is some kind of buying frenzy going on in Mar Vista right now. Is that the low end area of the west side? Won't there still be many more foreclosures coming in all over the west side that will push prices down in Q1 2010?

Rob Dawg said...

Hey, Pete. It's at the other End of the Southland but you might want to check out "Solano Verde Estates."
http://tinyurl.com/ylb4e7u
[zillow map of the neighborhood]
Look at the $7.95m listing:
Private gated driveway leads to a brand new compound in Somis in the Solano Verde Estates. Spanning over 28,000 sq.ft. under roof on 22 acres. Main house is 14,460 sq. ft., 2 bdrm. guest house and approx. 3000 sq.ft. Gym/recreation facility(basketball court) with 30 ft. ceilings. N/S lighted tennis court.10 car garage,acres of avocado and tangerine trees. Amenities:walnut and travertine floors, truss beam ceilings, theater, library, office,offices, art studio or dance, room for horses, much more

Westside Bubble said...

Anon,

Good question. I follow Mar Vista as the low end of the Westside west of the 405.

Given that its frenzy came from the tax credit and essentially zero-down FHA financing, that seems unsustainable like the original bubble. So it doesn't feel like a real bottom yet.

Rob,

Who's Pete?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Dawg, was addressing the author of the article. When the Dawg speaks, everyone listens.