tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post443230141106023900..comments2023-11-05T04:24:01.807-08:00Comments on Westside Bubble: June DataQuickWestside Bubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03383559105050069002noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-76187037325749003872008-07-18T15:59:00.000-07:002008-07-18T15:59:00.000-07:00thank you for sharingmost of the poeple who live i...thank you for sharing<BR/><BR/>most of the poeple who live in section eight housing are good folks, good neighbors. <BR/><BR/>just be aware that statistically you are much more likely to have your apartment burglarized now that you have secion 8 housing nearby. <BR/><BR/>please google this and make yourself informedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-76627366169652836862008-07-18T14:19:00.000-07:002008-07-18T14:19:00.000-07:00I live in Santa Monica because it is close to wher...I live in Santa Monica because it is close to where my husband got a job (was 3 block before the business moved). Due to the lefty-liberal reputation of the city I was amazed at how varied and tolerant my neighbors were. In fact one went to school with Ted Nugent and shares his views on gun ownership as do I. I am delighted with more development because high density is needed to support public transportation which I use all the time. The Water Garden is a fantastic addition to the neighborhood and we walk our dog over that way frequently. IMO the biggest problem in SM is rent control. There is no free flow of people and the rent control units bring in so little money that they are crumbling. I rent a condo so I can be in a building that is cared for. Sadly like many people on the west side I just found out my landlord is in financial trouble due to buying a house at the peak and wants to sell my unit. He still thinks he can get a lot of money for it LOLOL.<BR/><BR/>I don't think there is any one type of people who live here, it is mixed culturally and politically. Also judging by my nieghbors prices need to come down, they are not all making lots of money and people who bought at high prices are in trouble. We also have a new big Section 8 housing complex that just went in with another soon to be renting. Section 8 is not part of high end neighborhoods although we get trick or treaters now because people with families can afford to live there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-20198729475511745192008-07-18T13:36:00.000-07:002008-07-18T13:36:00.000-07:00what is the deal with people on this blog talking ...what is the deal with people on this blog talking about who is smarter,what ivy league school produces smarter graduates, etc.????<BR/><BR/>Can we pleeeaassseeee stick to real estate chat????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-5494087003149436402008-07-18T10:10:00.000-07:002008-07-18T10:10:00.000-07:00trouble is, the westside real estate industry is m...trouble is, the westside real estate industry is more sophisticated at lying than in other areas. 60% or more homes on the market purchased between 2004-2007 are in default on their prop taxes. why would ANYYONE list a home in this market if they weren't in trouble? because westsiders are so sophisticated, they often make deals with the banks to put the house on the market instead of taking it to trustee sale (where no one will bid)--often, just as the notice of default comes out. no, these places don't go to trustee sale, as agents are fond of saying. they do need to sell fast though. and there is demand on the westside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-11793384515690995472008-07-18T05:48:00.000-07:002008-07-18T05:48:00.000-07:00"I work around people from the best Ivy League sch..."I work around people from the best Ivy League schools to those that attended the lowliest state colleges."<BR/><BR/>Why the State Colleges gotta be lowly?<BR/><BR/>"Also there are people that didn't even graduate from high school in a foreign country."<BR/><BR/>Why the drop outs gotta be foreign?<BR/><BR/>"I have yet to see any indication that Ivy League or Berkeley, Stanford or any other top echelon grad was any more intelligent than people who attended less prestigious schools."<BR/><BR/>I'll throw your own remark back at you:<BR/><BR/>Define for intelligence.<BR/><BR/>"Ah, FYI, the place where I work is filled with MDs, PhDs, MDPhds and just about everyone else has a graduate degree (except the housekeeping staff)."<BR/><BR/>Who must be the dropouts from foreign countries? Why the housekeeping staff gotta be foreign dropouts?<BR/><BR/>"Be careful who you express your simple ideas about intelligence to next time you get sick since the doc or nurse or technician may have done their undergrad at Cal State L.A."<BR/><BR/>What a self serving narcisistic justification for faux egalitarianism. I need to be careful who I reveal my biases to because they might be helping me when I'm sick...<BR/><BR/>"Man you are stupid and an snob."<BR/><BR/>Actually, your not coming off so well here yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-35786326222057473292008-07-18T05:42:00.000-07:002008-07-18T05:42:00.000-07:00"There is absolutely not one piece of epidemiologi..."There is absolutely not one piece of epidemiologic or public health data that demonstrates that "organic" or any other "natural" foods like those sold at Whole Foods is any better than the food sold at Ralphs or Vons."<BR/><BR/>Your showing YOUR ignorance now. Whole Foods ceased to be an organic grocer in the 1990s. Now it's primarily an international grocer.<BR/><BR/>The average shopper in Santa Monica is more likely to leave the store with Dragon Fruit, Babimbap, Tempeh, Epoisses, and a bottle of Madiran, then they are to leave the store with a basket of organic apples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-14031908941219149392008-07-17T21:28:00.000-07:002008-07-17T21:28:00.000-07:00>>>"Or that people who shop at Vons ...>>>"Or that people who shop at Vons are inferior to those at Whole Foods?"<BR/><BR/>Inferior? No, but they certainly eat inferior food.<<<<BR/><BR/>You're exhibiting your stupidity because you are only being taken for a ride by purchasing your food at Whole Foods.<BR/><BR/>There is absolutely not one piece of epidemiologic or public health data that demonstrates that "organic" or any other "natural" foods like those sold at Whole Foods is any better than the food sold at Ralphs or Vons.<BR/><BR/>There is no data from any study that has demonstrated that pesticide, herbicide or any other residual chemical or hormone in food is at all responsible for any increased risk of cancer, birth defects or any other health problem.<BR/><BR/>All you are doing is practicing a fad that is not based on science. It is a fad based on 1960s throwback ignorance.<BR/><BR/>So, yes, you are proving that you are also not very smart when it comes to spending your money.<BR/><BR/>And who said that people living in SM were smarter than those living in Paramount.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-33373193022063820002008-07-17T21:22:00.000-07:002008-07-17T21:22:00.000-07:00>>Does anyone honestly believe that the medi...>>Does anyone honestly believe that the median Stanford grad is NOT smarter than the median Cal State grad? And how in the world did you convince yourself of that?<<<BR/><BR/>Define for intelligence. <BR/><BR/>I work around people from the best Ivy League schools to those that attended the lowliest state colleges.<BR/><BR/>Also there are people that didn't even graduate from high school in a foreign country.<BR/><BR/>I have yet to see any indication that Ivy League or Berkeley, Stanford or any other top echelon grad was any more intelligent than people who attended less prestigious schools.<BR/><BR/>Ah, FYI, the place where I work is filled with MDs, PhDs, MDPhds and just about everyone else has a graduate degree (except the housekeeping staff).<BR/><BR/>Be careful who you express your simple ideas about intelligence to next time you get sick since the doc or nurse or technician may have done their undergrad at Cal State L.A. <BR/><BR/>Man you are stupid and an snob.<BR/><BR/>But being a snob and a bigot is a prerequisite for living in Santa Monica.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-27173923340371127752008-07-17T21:13:00.000-07:002008-07-17T21:13:00.000-07:00Does anyone honestly believe that the median Stanf...Does anyone honestly believe that the median Stanford grad is NOT smarter than the median Cal State grad? And how in the world did you convince yourself of that?Epsilonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08634256362845380596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-64657191782195442172008-07-17T21:08:00.000-07:002008-07-17T21:08:00.000-07:00read some opinion polls every single opinion poll ...read some opinion polls <BR/><BR/>every single opinion poll done in recent years has shown that sm residents want no developers<BR/><BR/>Developers should stop creating traffic<BR/><BR/>traffic around the water garden is already hellish due to the developers now they want to bring trafic hell to the rest of SMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-23297357805932142082008-07-17T19:00:00.000-07:002008-07-17T19:00:00.000-07:00"It's very interesting how you stereotype..."It's very interesting how you stereotype the Inland Empire. Do you also believe that blacks have inferior intelligence?"<BR/><BR/>No, but people from the 909 do!<BR/><BR/>"Or that Cal State graduates are less smart than Stanford grads?"<BR/><BR/>Um... yes.<BR/><BR/>"Or that people who shop at Vons are inferior to those at Whole Foods?"<BR/><BR/>Inferior? No, but they certainly eat inferior food.<BR/><BR/>"What do you think about people who like country western music?"<BR/><BR/>Strictly speaking thats Country & Western music. You left out the ampersand.<BR/><BR/>"Tell me, how does it feel to look down on so many people? You know, the "common folks" that make less than $70,000/yr?"<BR/><BR/>I'll never live like common people,<BR/>I'll never do what common people do,<BR/>I'll never fail like common people,<BR/>I'll never watch my life slide out of view,<BR/>and dance and drink and screw,<BR/>because there's nothing else to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-18592968104473767542008-07-17T17:58:00.000-07:002008-07-17T17:58:00.000-07:00anon 2:38pm said:--_the majority of sm citizens wa...anon 2:38pm said:<BR/><BR/>--_the majority of sm citizens want no developers<BR/><BR/>developers bribe the city government in sm to ignore the people and build anyway. <BR/><BR/>therefore i classify the developers who build in santa monica as the worst type of despicable scumbags. <BR/><BR/>they ignore the people and the will of the people."--<BR/><BR/>Do you have any evidence of this supposed corruption? Or are you just a troll?<BR/><BR/>If you are serious, what kind of nut are you?<BR/><BR/>Are there others in Santa Monica like you?<BR/><BR/>It's very interesting how you stereotype the Inland Empire. Do you also believe that blacks have inferior intelligence?<BR/><BR/>Or that Cal State graduates are less smart than Stanford grads?<BR/><BR/>Or that people who shop at Vons are inferior to those at Whole Foods?<BR/><BR/>What do you think about people who like country western music?<BR/><BR/>Tell me, how does it feel to look down on so many people? You know, the "common folks" that make less than $70,000/yr?<BR/><BR/>Let's hear it for the superior race of Santa Monica resident!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-62393292570065234642008-07-17T16:22:00.000-07:002008-07-17T16:22:00.000-07:00Wow! I like all of the progessive, liberal and to...Wow! I like all of the progessive, liberal and tolerant voices of Santa Monica!<BR/><BR/>Some of you are one step from those bad folks that toasted people in gas ovens in Germany during the War. It's incredibly easy to get people to turn into ruthless animals.<BR/><BR/>You can see it right here on this board and everyone here is living a life of luxury and comfort that only a tiny proportion of humanity has experienced.<BR/><BR/>Yet you call for "developers" to burn in hell.<BR/><BR/>Man you people need to see a therapist because you are 100% certifiably SICK!<BR/><BR/>In case you haven't noticed, the City of Santa Monica holds elections regularly. If the citizens of said city would like to get elected officials to change the way government decisions are made, the citizens can do that.<BR/><BR/>Of course if you crazy mentally ill idiots believe that "they" are out to destroy your beloved city and there is nothing that can be done about it short of stringing people up, murdering them, or breaking the bad guys children's knees, then I suppose there's nothing that anyone can do.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad I don't live in Santa Monica. I'd rather join the Hitler Youth of So California than live in this town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-88550764999208462072008-07-17T15:41:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:41:00.000-07:00The word was that property bubbles don't burst, bu...The word was that property bubbles don't burst, but this does look more like a burst than a fizzle. Peter Viles (LA Times) comments on DQ figures showing coastal properties are now very clearly feeling the squeeze.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-42018308370690219002008-07-17T15:39:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:39:00.000-07:00to all that care about our city please join the sa...to all that care about our city please join the santa monica coalition for a livable city<BR/><BR/>http://www.smclc.net/mission.html<BR/><BR/>if you don't join, the santa monica that you know and love will be replacedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-84605082556353638752008-07-17T15:34:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:34:00.000-07:00the city counsel succumbs to the overwhelming pres...the city counsel succumbs to the overwhelming pressure of the developers <BR/><BR/><BR/>the economy doesn't dictate development. Developers do. <BR/><BR/>developers make campaign contributions to the city counsel members and bribe them in numerous subtle and unsubtle ways<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>simply look at the opinion polls in SM. we the people don't want development. <BR/><BR/>any development is being built cause scum like you ignore the people <BR/><BR/>you pretend to not understand. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Upton Sinclair described you perfectly when he said <BR/><BR/>"It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton SinclairAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-66164328045208214942008-07-17T14:56:00.000-07:002008-07-17T14:56:00.000-07:00It's the growing population of LA as a whole, not ...It's the growing population of LA as a whole, not the developers in Santa Monica, who cause traffic problems. Developers feed a demand, not create it. If you built something in Santa Monica that no one wanted, it would sit vacant and dark. I don't see a lot of that around here. But hey, burn in hell anyway. It's just so funny that people with no sense of how communities and governments function in relation to the economy spout off that their little city is under siege. It's something you'll never be able to defend against. You can't stop people from visiting Santa Monica and spending money in its stores. Developers don't bribe cities. They just submit plans and their arguments for approval. Cities succumb to the overwhelming pressure of the economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-28064065913783506882008-07-17T14:49:00.000-07:002008-07-17T14:49:00.000-07:00A mole wore a wire for a year while acting as a ba...A mole wore a wire for a year while acting as a bagman carrying bribes from developers and contractors to Chicago building inspectors, exposing systemic corruption in the Zoning and Buildings Departments, authorities said Thursday.<BR/><BR/>Even for a town that has turned payoffs into an art form, the operative uncovered brazen misconduct, investigators alleged.<BR/><BR/>City inspectors ignored problems, fabricated reports and sped up paperwork in exchange for envelopes of cash, work on their homes and tickets to skyboxes for Bulls games, the federal charges alleged. One inspector took $10,000 to approve two illegal basement units in a building, while another allegedly took $7,000 to "inspect" plumbing that was already covered by concrete, investigators saidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-49760897294752449302008-07-17T14:39:00.000-07:002008-07-17T14:39:00.000-07:00traffic is getting worse in santa monica due to th...traffic is getting worse in santa monica due to the developersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-32407016050118177122008-07-17T14:38:00.000-07:002008-07-17T14:38:00.000-07:00the majority of sm citizens want no developersdeve...the majority of sm citizens want no developers<BR/><BR/>developers bribe the city government in sm to ignore the people and build anyway. <BR/><BR/>therefore i classify the developers who build in santa monica as the worst type of despicable scumbags. <BR/><BR/>they ignore the people and the will of the people.<BR/><BR/><BR/>the citizens of the inland empire welcome development - they want development. the developers in the inland empire are doing what the citizens want. therefore the developers in the inland empire are solid citizens as far as i am concerned<BR/><BR/>big difference. if you build offices or condos or shopping or anything in santa monica - if you are a developer in santa monica you will burn in hellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-70138091657832843572008-07-17T14:07:00.000-07:002008-07-17T14:07:00.000-07:00No development=bankrupt city, bad streets, higher ...No development=bankrupt city, bad streets, higher crime, etc. <BR/><BR/>Get over it. It's more connected to you daily lives than you think. I don't develop in Santa Monica for the simple fact that the city is so hardcore and stringent that it's hard to make money vis a vis heading out to the IE and working with friendly cities.<BR/><BR/>But if you think that categorically all developers are scum then I guess that's OK too. You live in one of our homes, shop at our malls, and vacation at our hotels. Check yourself. You are a fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-75554286534080566512008-07-17T13:03:00.000-07:002008-07-17T13:03:00.000-07:00actually, plenty of places in the inland empire wa...actually, plenty of places in the inland empire want development<BR/><BR/>let the developers go build there and make tons of money<BR/><BR/>capitalism is good but only where the residents want development<BR/><BR/>the majority of the people in inland empire want them to build stuff there <BR/><BR/>the majority in SM want no more building simple as that<BR/><BR/>give the people what they wantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-14190387561731626002008-07-17T12:33:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:33:00.000-07:00Hello anti-development:I think that the state shou...Hello anti-development:<BR/>I think that the state should pass a law that bans all residents of Santa Monica was working in ANY job that is related to the building industry.<BR/><BR/>This would include working for:<BR/><BR/>1. contractors (of course), <BR/>2. banks and financial institutions that do business with contractors or the building industry, <BR/>3. companies that supply materials to the building industry, <BR/>4. legal and other service companies that do work for contractors or anyone in the building industry, <BR/>5. companies that supplies the building industry with energy,<BR/>6. companies that supply vehicles or tools to contractors or the building industry,<BR/>7. companies that supply internet or any computer based service or supplies to the building industry,<BR/>8. any other company or business that makes a single dime out of developing RE.<BR/><BR/>There. You want NIMBY then you should suffer the consequences of your fascist anti-freedom and capitialist views.<BR/><BR/>I would expect that after we passed this new law the housing prices in SM would fall dramatically because most of you would be out of a job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-73060203968907475672008-07-17T12:29:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:29:00.000-07:00there is literally no one on this board arguing th...there is literally no one on this board arguing that the 90402 is going up <BR/><BR/>why don't we have a reasonable discussion of whether it is better to buy or build - since we all know that prices are coming down <BR/><BR/>which is better <BR/><BR/><BR/>(1) buy a vacant lot north of montana, hire a contractor and build your own house<BR/><BR/>(2) buy an already existing house north of montanaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2983944778720243687.post-39945373191077821812008-07-17T12:25:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:25:00.000-07:00developers are scumwe all benefit from a freeze on...developers are scum<BR/><BR/>we all benefit from a freeze on development in santa monica. <BR/><BR/>no new construction of anything under any circumstances<BR/><BR/><BR/>i would make an exception for affordable housing for our police and firemen cause they deserve it but come on<BR/><BR/>ANYTHING they build increases the traffic <BR/><BR/>the residents of SM want no development it is the scum developers and their tools in city govt that are pushing for development<BR/><BR/>we already have enough traffic <BR/><BR/>NO MORE DEVELOPMENTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com